29.06.2008

VanceS contributed 272 messages, 15 emotes, 1 private message during 155 minutes. 2008.06.29 05:14:10 Login Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. VanceS: hey good friend dennis VanceS: I'll be right back, logging on from another computer VanceS left the room (signed off). Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. VanceS: hi again DennisOl: Hi. DennisOl: I was here earlier, but no one was here. VanceS: hey I had a small problem logging on DennisOl: What happened? VanceS: in Firefox i was told I had too many java machines running VanceS: they were conflicting DennisOl: Interesting. VanceS: so I logged on from another computer and said hi DennisOl: Good problem-solving! VanceS: and then I came back to the one in front of me and tried from a different browser (flock) VanceS: and this seems to be working DennisOl: Very interesting. VanceS: didn't feel like shutting down all the tabs I have going in Firefox, but one or more must be using java DennisOl: So it would seem. VanceS: how's twitter working for you? DennisOl: OK, but I don't use it as often now as I once did. VanceS: did you see my tesl-ej article DennisOl: I haven't had problems with "Open older" as some have had. DennisOl: No. What's the URL? VanceS: i haven't had a working older button in weeks NergizK joined the room. VanceS: hey nergiz NergizK: Hi Vance VanceS: how's slexperiments going NergizK: Hi Dennis VanceS: fridays unfortunately at that time I'm normally not available DennisOl: Hi, Nergiz. How's everything. NergizK: Oh, just fine. Though, most regular participants are on holiday now. DennisOl: I found the article, Vance. NergizK: Fine, Dennis. And with you? VanceS: google? NergizK: That's the usual problem, Vance, when you have participants from all over the world NergizK: What article are you looking for? NergizK: or at :) VanceS waits for Dennis to shoot from the hip DennisOl: OK, thanks, Nergiz. VanceS: dennis is slow on the draw today NergizK: For those who cannot attend, there is still the SLexperiments wiki. We usually provide a summary of the meeting, too DennisOl: It's an article by Vance at the TESL EJ. NergizK: Unusual for Dennis :) NergizK: Ah, the one about Twitter? DennisOl: Are you referring to the proceedings from the 2007 convergence, Vance? VanceS: yes I'm browsing around for its url VanceS: aha VanceS: Stevens, Vance. (2008). Trial by Twitter: The rise and slide of the year's most viral microblogging platform. TESL-EJ, Volume 12, Number 1:http://tesl-ej.org/ej45/int.html VanceS . o O ( it's hard to beat dennis at firing out these urls ) DennisOl: For some reason, a search took me to the March 2008 issue. VanceS: I guess the June issue isn't officially out yet NergizK: But you faster than me DagmarM joined the room. VanceS: yes, if you want June just change 44 to 45 in the march url VanceS: I just sent my first hellotxt NergizK: Dennis, I'm happy to see that you are still using Twitter DennisOl: Thanks, Nergiz. NergizK: Vance, I've also read about about hellotxt and ping.fm NergizK: recently VanceS: I can't get into ping.fm NergizK: blocked? DagmarM left the room. DennisOl: Vance, I checked out the article. Just browsed it quickly for now. Will read it more carefully later. NergizK: Dennis, Vance, have you taught academic writing? I might need to teach it and don't know where to start. DennisOl: Yes, I've taught it a lot. VanceS: you need an invitation code to get into ping NergizK: Invitation? From whom? VanceS: Nergiz I have taught AW but not recently VanceS: I don't know, are you a ping.fm member? DennisOl: I would say that these are some of the pervasive problems that I've worked with: NergizK: How did you get started? In the DELTA you don't learn anything about it DennisOl: 1. organization into paragraphs and essays NergizK: I'm not a ping.fm member. I decided not to sign up VanceS: I just hellotxt'd to plurk and twitter &etc simultaneously VanceS: this is kind of cool, covers all bases DennisOl: 2. use of conjunctive adverbs (however, therefore, etc.) vs conjunctions (and, though, so). VanceS listens to Dennis DennisOl: 3. organization into intro, body, conclusion NergizK: Nergiz: is listening too, very attentively ClaireB joined the room. ClaireB: hi guys VanceS: hi claire ClaireB hugs everyone NergizK: Vance, it's a Beta code they are asking for DennisOl: 4. citation form (APA / MLA) DennisOl: Hey, Claire! Hugs right back! NergizK: Hi Claire. Dennis ist explaining how to start teaching Academic Writing ClaireB: cool VanceS: right nergiz, cn't sign up without it ClaireB: is it really the 500th straight webheads sessio? ClaireB: session? DennisOl: I've found that OWLs (online writing labs) are very useful. NergizK: They say, youcan also ask them via email VanceS: I was estimating claire, but we're near that VanceS: or past it NergizK: Yes, others have also mentioned OWLs DennisOl: Wow! 500 sessions! Incredible. VanceS: in Sept it will be ten years DennisOl: The OWL at Purdue is especially good for English learners. VanceS: figure 52 weeks a year VanceS: maybe we should do a count NergizK: 500 sessions?? DennisOl: The OWL at Purdue: DennisOl: http://owl.english.purdue.edu/ ClaireB: really ten years? what year did webheads start? VanceS: Nergiz, I just bookmarked an academic reading site here, and there are others, see http://del.icio.us/vancestevens/writing NergizK: Dennis, would you recommend following a book? VanceS: sorry, academic reading AND writing ClaireB: dennis, you're right; OWL is one of those tried and true resources NergizK: OK. Thanks, Vance. I'll have a look NergizK: Purdue has been mentioned a lot. So, it's the one to go with :) NergizK: I think VanceS: it's very well known ClaireB: and very stable DennisOl: Here's a good general source: DennisOl: http://www.writingcenters.org/owcdb/ DennisOl: Nergiz: No, I don't really recommend following a book, but my experience has been in university and college programs, and they usually require books. DennisOl: To add to my list, NergizK: So, do you think it would be a good idea to chunck the material and offer it to her in an organised way (let's say by providing the links on Moodle) and giving her feedback? DennisOl: 5. learning how to paraphrase and summarize NergizK: Dennis, you are just amazing. VanceS: to her, is this for one student? DennisOl: 6. learning to proofread and edit NergizK: Yes, Vance, one person NergizK: And it ill be online NergizK: as she is in Japan DennisOl: Nergiz, I have a collection of writing links. I haven't checked them recently, so there may be some that are out of date. DennisOl: Hold on, and I'll give you the URL. ClaireB: where is everyone today? NergizK: Doesn't matter, I can check them. ClaireB: i guess it's still early DennisOl: http://www.d-oliver.net/writing/index.htm VanceS: let's see, today we're in twitter and plurk and at NECC virually DennisOl: I've been thinking of reconfiguring my website. If I do, this might disappear. For the time being, it's still online, though. ClaireB: vance what is the point of hellotxt.com? NergizK: Thanks a lot Vance and Dennis. I really appreciate your help NergizK: OK. Dennis VanceS: You get an acct, you give it your other social networking sites VanceS: you post your 140 character msg VanceS: and it sends them to all you spaces ClaireB: ah, so that's if you have a bunchof other spaces besides twitter? DennisOl: My pleasure, Nergiz. VanceS: yes, these days a lot of people are moving to Plurk VanceS: it's happening over the past day or two VanceS: very interesting to watch VanceS: you could do a phd thesis on the discourse there DennisOl: http://www.plurk.com/ ClaireB: i thought that people had looked at plurk and decided to stay with twitter NergizK: Maybe if a lot of people move to other places, Twitter will function properly again :) ClaireB: yeah twitter has been down a lot recently VanceS: i think twitter will only function properly if it can retain the network it's built up DennisOl: Nergiz: Ask Claire about VMWare Fusion and Parallels. VanceS: if it loses that then it's toast NergizK: Ah, Buthaina was interested in VmWare Fusion VanceS: what are those things? NergizK: or at least something to use Win on Mac ClaireB: my husband says that fusion is better than parallels VanceS: for what? NergizK: With paralles, you need to buy Win system. Is it the same with Fusion? ClaireB: but he does not have a lot of recent direct experience NergizK: Vance, to use Win on Mac DennisOl: Right, Claire. VanceS: oh ClaireB: with both you have to buy a windows os NergizK: Has anyone used Boot Camp? ClaireB: the problem with bootcamp is that you have to reboot yhour system to get into it DennisOl: I haven't, but if I get an Intel Mac soon, I will be--and I'll also have to decide whether to use VMWare Fusion or Parallels. NergizK: Ah, right. ClaireB: but it is good because it runs windows natively NergizK: Yes, and doesn't cost anything extra NergizK: Rebooting is very fast NergizK: But I haven't tried it myself yet because I don't have system 10.5 yet ClaireB: with bootcamp, my husband says that you still have to buy windows os NergizK: Oh, really? NergizK: Hm :( ClaireB: rebooting is not fast on my system NergizK: I have an IntelMac and it's incredibley fast compared to my iBook ClaireB: my husband says that reboting with bootcamp takes at least 5 minutes DennisOl: The ads for both VMWare and Parallels don't make it clear that you also need to have Windows. NergizK: You know, I have never really needed to use Windows. And not you need it even less because a lot more is available for Mac ClaireB: if you already have a copy of windows, you can probably use that copy NergizK: I guess so ClaireB: i have an old copy of parallels, but i don't use it much anymore. ClaireB: i used to need it for my university purchasing system, but for the new system i can use a man ClaireB: mac NergizK: There is a lot of Open Source software, too. And most work on all platforms DennisOl: I function quite well with Mac only most of the time, but sometimes I want to access things that are PC only. One good example is Andy Pincon's site. CarlaA joined the room. NergizK: Andy P? Is that Alado? DennisOl: Another is some exercises on Teresa's "Have Fun with English" site. DennisOl: Yes. Andy of Alado. VanceS: ginga! DennisOl: You can't access Alado on a Mac. CarlaA: Hey, Vance and all! NergizK: Hola! Carla. Que tal? NergizK smiles NergizK: Nergiz is learning Spanish :) DennisOl: Hey, Carlinha! Abraços! CarlaA: bien, Nergiz! ClaireB hugs carla CarlaA: beijos, Dennis and Clarinha ClaireB: hi carla DennisOl: ¿Bien como siempre, verdad? ClaireB: nergiz, don't learn spanish; learn portuguese!! VanceS: en florida es necessito hablar un poco en espanol ClaireB: portuguese is the best language lol ClaireB: vance, your spanish sux NergizK: I like Portuguese ClaireB: let's hear it for portuguese VanceS: gracias por nada clairita CarlaA: I'm a terrible spanish spearker, but in Florida we need spanish! NergizK: but more people understand Spanish VanceS hugs claire CarlaA: it seems easier to understand, Nergiz NergizK: But I heard Brazilians or Portugues speakers understand Spanish DennisOl: Much gente aqui en Phoenix habla español también. ClaireB: yes but it can be a huge advantage to know portuguese in florida becuase it is not as common as spanish CarlaA: we do! CarlaA: but generally spanish speakers don't understand portuguese NergizK: The only think I remember from Portugues is oj ClaireB: ha! you think you do lol NergizK: I heard that, too Carla CarlaA: no, Clarinha, now I do!!! ClaireB: when i lived in portugal, i spent a lot of time translating back and forth between portuguese and spanish speakers CarlaA: I know what you mean ClaireB: carla, since you live in florida, i'm sure you do CarlaA: and Brazilians think they can speak spanish! DennisOl: I've found that Portuguese speakers understand Spanish better than Spanish speakers understand Portuguese, for the most part. CorinneW joined the room. CorinneW: Hi DennisOl: Hi, Corinne. ClaireB: and spanish people think that they know portuguese NergizK: Hi Corrine! DennisOl: Welcome! CorinneW: Good to see you all ClaireB: hi corrine CorinneW: thanks NergizK: Good to see you again NergizK: How is Germany? CorinneW: Hi Claire, CorinneW: Yes it is rare that I manage to get in for webheads but.. CorinneW: it is very hot here in Germany DennisOl: It's very hot here in Phoenix, AZ, too! CorinneW: both my son and I have a cold so we are staying out of the heat and having a chill out day NelbaQ joined the room. NergizK: Really? I heard it had been raining a lot NelbaQ: Morning, everygody! NergizK: Hi Nelba! CarlaA: here in Boston is cold CorinneW: we had a rainy spell, that is true, but now it is 30 degrees, which for me is hot NelbaQ: Hi, Nergiz, Vance, Carla... VanceS: hi Corinne, hi Nelba CarlaA: hey, Nelba NergizK: It's very hot here. So today I moved downstairs where it's nice and cool CorinneW: So anyway sorry, if I distrurbed the flow of conversation, please carry on and I will catch up NelbaQ: talking about the weather? CorinneW: if there is no specific topic on the agenda today I wouldn't mind picking your brains about something ClaireB: our brains are scrambled, but pick away NelbaQ: oh, Carla is dealing with bookmarking at Diigo. NergizK: I've installed Moodle last week and am setting up courses. Have to learn a lot, though, as usual NelbaQ: so I invited Writing Matrix participants to Tapped In to talk about that topic CorinneW: I teach corporates or 'suits' and a problem that I come up with is not specific to online teaching, but I need an online solution perhaps CorinneW: motivation NergizK listening to Corinne MoiraH joined the room. NelbaQ: Hey, Corinne I am also learning about MOODLE DennisOl: Here's the weather for where I am: DennisOl: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=85037 MoiraH: Hello everybody NelbaQ: Hi, Moira! NergizK: Nelba, good to know. MoiraH: Came in earlier but there was not a sole DennisOl: Hi, Nelba and Moira! Hugs! ClaireB: hi moira MoiraH: soul ;-) NergizK: Hi Moira CarlaA: hey, Moira NelbaQ: Hugs to you too,Dennis MoiraH: Hugs to you all CorinneW: they are working long hours anyway, pretty stressed and they have committed to 3 hours of private study time a week, but are not putting in the study time, we are in week 15 of 20 so that could be part of the problem, beer garden and football championships also playing a toll DennisOl smiles NergizK: So you want to know how to motivate your students, Corrine? VanceS: topic for today is whatever you want it to be NergizK: Corinne MoiraH: Football! CorinneW: yes I have tried hall of fame and shame VanceS: meet in the pub MoiraH: Spai v Germany tonight :-) CarlaA: oh, that CarlaA: that's Vance! CarlaA: I love to go to pubs with Vance!!! VanceS: ginga! NergizK: Today, I'm for Germany :) CorinneW: european championships are being held in salzburg (in part atleast, major footie fever here) MoiraH: And I'm for Spain today :-) NelbaQ: football is not my stron point :( VanceS . o O ( see, my portuguese is better than my spanish :-)) ) DennisOl: I'll be back in a few minutes . . . . . NergizK: Where are the finals? NergizK: Corinne, go ahead MoiraH: I was in Madrid for the Italy v Spain match - quite amazing CarlaA: lol, vance CorinneW: not in salzburg I don't think, vienna I think CorinneW: cool CorinneW: the atmosphere is amazing CorinneW: brb VanceS: so corinne, your question is how to motivate your students in the heat with all the distractions? MoiraH: Grandmas and granchildren standing next to fans smoking joints, drinking beer - all in good humour too - amazing VanceS: grandma was the original joint smoker MoiraH: true lol VanceS winks knowingly VanceS: i saw where in amsterdam smoking tobacco is now illegal in pubs ClaireB: but can you smoke joints? VanceS: yes, still legal CarlaA: lol MoiraH: yes, true again, VanceS: it's the nicotine that's the problem VanceS: the dutch are very reasonable people MoiraH: in Madrid the police were so cool about it NelbaQ: well, here is Argentina smoking is forbiden in public places CarlaA: hahah ClaireB: hi nelba (when did you get here?) CarlaA: some time ago, Claire!!1 CorinneW: sorry, Rose was crying in Sleeping Beauty, Finn gets quite drawn into disney sometimes VanceS: I just ran a spreadsheet starting with Sept 13, 1998 NergizK: Same in Turkey, and people are thinking how to survive. I heard that the age for starting smoking is down to 6!!! VanceS: the significance of which is here MoiraH: smoking of cigarettes is now forbidden here in public places too VanceS: http://prosites-vstevens.homestead.com/files/efi/chat1998.htm NergizK: OK, so back to Corinne's motivation problem RonyP joined the room. VanceS: this is our first preserved record of webheads sunday meetings VanceS: they occurred before that but we have no record of them MoiraH: what is the motivation problem? Hot sticky students wanting to go out to the sunshine? CorinneW: something like that CarlaA: it's really nice that you keep the records, Vance. VanceS: the spreadsheet shows that Sunday April 6, 2008 was our 500th consecutive weekly sunday chat MoiraH: How old are they Corinne? CorinneW: their company isn't paying for it, because they can use English when they go on holiday, what a joke!!! CarlaA: wow, Vance CorinneW: between 25 and 45/50 NergizK: That is a joke! JoaoA joined the room. VanceS: today is the 512th CarlaA: hey, Joao! CarlaA: great to see you here JoaoA: hi JoaoA: everyone MoiraH: are they 2f students Corinne? NergizK: Hi Joao ClaireB: hi joao MoiraH: f2f CorinneW: f2f yes ClaireB: so what year did webheads start, vance? MoiraH: Hi JoaoA VanceS: what are you supposed to be teaching them Corinne? CorinneW: well blended actaully NergizK: So, arent't they attending the classes, not doing their homework? DennisOl: João! Hi! CorinneW: 1.5 hours here at tappedin and 1.5 hours in the classroom VanceS: we started in 1998, and our first recorded chat, and logs for years subsequently, starts here VanceS: http://prosites-vstevens.homestead.com/files/efi/chat1998.htm NergizK: Why not use a new tools with them instead of Tappedin? NergizK: That might motivated them? Using voice, maybe CorinneW: they attend class, although that is dropping too, the main problem is the online tasks which are very job specific, (content agreed with mgt) NelbaQ: mmm. I finished reading an article by Prensky about students' motivation in class. VanceS: have them blog the world cup MoiraH: I heard 'pub' mentioned before. Any pubs nearbye to go to Corinne to change the f2f environment? CorinneW: bit late for that now I guess CarlaA: they love it! NelbaQ: very good one. haven´t you mentioned it in Twitter CArla? CorinneW: tried that this week, we went out for lunch RonyP: anything more appealing to students MoiraH: ahhhh ... and???? VanceS: meet them in SL at a virtual pub CorinneW: twitter Carla??? ClaireB: hmm, does anyone know how maggi is doing? CorinneW: ahhh Twitter, Carla VanceS: gosh I don't know, claire CorinneW: haven't seen or heard from her for ages, sorry NelbaQ: Prensky says that we must change our teaching way CorinneW: last time I spoke to her, (months ago) she was pretty down NergizK: in what way, Nelba? CarlaA: http://brazilandbrazilians.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2006-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2007-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=22 MoiraH: Roberst Scoble has a 'Screw Twitter' message on his - I didn't follow that conversation - anyone here did? NelbaQ: yes, he says that our students are pretty different from us NergizK: What's that Carla? NelbaQ: the Digital IMMIgrants CarlaA: this is a blog activity I had with my students CarlaA: about the world cup. they loved it NelbaQ: they have grown with digital technology,so NelbaQ: their brain works different VanceS: you know, Plurk would be fun with students NelbaQ: from ours DennisOl: I remember that post, Carlinha. NergizK: Well, not Corinnes's students, age 25-40 VanceS: I just twigged on that NelbaQ: they are used to multitasking. CorinneW: Plurk? url? VanceS: Plurk.com NelbaQ: so, we cannot teach step by step VanceS: it's very conversational CarlaA: Dennis's friend's class was there with us CorinneW: yes that's right, thanks Nergiz VanceS: short conversation bursts NelbaQ: to make things short he recommends NelbaQ: to use games for teaching VanceS: have your students sign up and make friends with one another NelbaQ: implementing technological tools NergizK: They're corporates, Nelba NelbaQ: webquest NelbaQ: for example NergizK: And German, I assume NergizK smiles VanceS: you sign up with a teacher persona so it doesn't involve your real life CorinneW: Austrians NelbaQ: let me see if I got the link... NergizK: Corinne, did they say anything about not being motivated? Did you talk about it? CorinneW: Austrian software developers VanceS: plurk would make a great back channel to other learning activities RonyP: hard not 2 intangle the two CorinneW: young, IT aware NergizK: Ah, Austrians, OK MoiraH: ooohhh COrinne, they can be old stades (if that's the right speling) DennisOl: Software developers. Hmm. I wonder if they would enjoy interacting with Sasha Sirk's students. CorinneW: but overstretched and disappointed by the structure of the course, they were expecting a conversation course but management have specific skill sets that they want them to learn NelbaQ: why , Dennis? NergizK: Interacting with other learners it good VanceS: and for that matter you could get them into writing matrix VanceS: writingmatrix or something like it VanceS: involving tagging VanceS: and blogging NergizK: So management is not paying but have a say CorinneW: that would be worth trying, certainly, where are Sasha's students based DennisOl: I've seen a lot of technologically-oriented things on Sasha's students' blogs. NelbaQ: Yes, Writing matrix may be interesting VanceS: in slovenia DennisOl: That was in the past, though. Might not be the case now. CorinneW points at Nergiz with a 'you got it' smile NelbaQ: yes, she works very well CorinneW: they are paying half I think CorinneW: sacha sirk can't find her ClaireB: vance, i am confused. i thought the point of hellotxt was to send info out to other services, but it seems not to include plurk CorinneW: wrong spelling sorry VanceS: hellotxt does include plurk NergizK: Did your students say what would motivate them? DennisOl: Maybe VoiceThread would work for conversation practice. VanceS: i just hellotxt'd to twitter, plurk, tumblr, and facebook all in a fell swoop VanceS is so proud of himself, life's small victories :-)) NelbaQ: This is Sasha's blog http://rostilj.blogspot.com/ ClaireB: oh, i just found the settings page -- my bad ClaireB: sorry for asking before i investigated ClaireB: what is tumblr VanceS: tumblr is a cool little microblog thing that's been around for ages NergizK: Nelba, how far are you with Moodle? I need to find out how to integrate audio and video files ClaireB: advantage? NelbaQ: Well, I had to develop a course NelbaQ: I did it about Web 2 tools VanceS: not sure, I just started my acct, I think it;s more at the blog end of microblogging spectrum CarlaA: some people are using it as a blogging platform, claire. CorinneW: They are motivated by drinking and chatting, but I am not being paid to do that, they are paying high fees to have their students learn IT & finance specific vocab and skills so it has to be a little dull by nature because it is the stuff they do every day at work, but that in part is what esp is all about NelbaQ: I was doing an online course in Argentina. VanceS: lets you post media, kind of keep track of lots of things on the fly NelbaQ: Pretty good. CarlaA: you can add all kinds of stuff there, but in a more objective way CorinneW: ahh, really, an online course in what? NelbaQ: I also learned about e-ducativa DennisOl: Thanks for the URL to Saša's blog, Nelba. VanceS: it's more like your own microblog blog, doesn't seem to be as conversational as the others NelbaQ: Spanish platform NelbaQ: ;) Dennis NergizK: Dull by nature?? DennisOl smiles back. NelbaQ: and different as well MoiraH: e-ducativa - what is it Nelba? NergizK: Tumblr is a good way of "bookmarking" sites NergizK: But most use it as a blog, I think NelbaQ: I use Google CorinneW: well they are programmers, they programme software for financial services so although it is interesting for me, it is dull for them because it is what they do all day every day NelbaQ: bar for bookmarking VanceS: i notice that paul allison puts things like quotes he wants to remember in tumblr and they turn up posted at twitter NelbaQ: very useful and practical, and fast! RonyP: that can be really dull NelbaQ: pity you cannot share MoiraH: hence my above comment ;-) CorinneW: they would rather talk about something else, just to get talking, I am incorporating more of that now but the bottom line is that mgt wants them to learn a) and they want to learn b) NergizK: Never heard of e-dukativa VanceS: Corinne you have to think outside the box into what IT and finance is CorinneW: mgt pays me so my first priority is to keep them happy VanceS: your students need projects and eportfolios VanceS: I would have them propose them NelbaQ: you may use role playing , Corinne. RonyP: that makes sense corrine NelbaQ: set situations and make NelbaQ: the students act as if... CarlaA: they need to follow the program but also be doing something that interest them, Corinne NergizK: They will hate role-playing CorinneW: they have four indi assignments and 4 group assignments, they quite enjoy those and the presentations and role plays are popular too NelbaQ: that is pretty common in financial courses NelbaQ frowns NergizK: I had tech staff as student and they didn't like it NergizK: Hm, mine didn't like it at least CorinneW: I got them to suggest discussion topics, which they did after me nagging them a little and even those weren't actively discussed RonyP: well incorporate the things they enjoy but i guess it becomes harder as those resources fall out MoiraH: WIth some IT consultants, we rewrote their whole programme - made it more interactive - it kept them hooked and I got the job done for the English learning component and I personally learnt a lot too - get them doing their stuff in a different way VanceS: they could study the business models of startup IT companies and report back VanceS: we had a good one come up on webheads today VanceS: who is/are ninehub.com? NelbaQ: yes, and prepare a power point presentation... maybe VanceS: how about a youtube video, even better CorinneW: good idea Vance (mgt might not like me doing that them, staff turnover is high enough as it is) NelbaQ: yes! NergizK: Good suggestions. And maybe reward them with chatting about other things at the end of the class after they've worked hard MoiraH: ninehub has been around for a whils as I remember it from some time back and I searched to see whether I signed up, but obviously didn't at the time. I've tried to find out since when they've been around, but couldn't find anything VanceS: they seem pretty straightup to me, functional, free, practical ... DennisOl: http://ninehub.com/ MoiraH: so many out there and every day there seems to be more offering free online course hosting VanceS: I dont know of any other free moodle hosts, do you? apart from friends you have to know ... NelbaQ: nop NergizK: I've heard about another one but can't remember the name JoaoA: yes, I agree with Vance what ninehub is concerned. Thanks for sharing. I might use it with the students next school year. And if I don't, it is always a good chance to practise the admin side of Moodle. NergizK: Nellie Deutsch mentioned it MoiraH: there is another one (can't think of the name right nosw) and only once you sign up do you realise that they have everything running on moodle CorinneW: back and catching up VanceS: and you can administer your own moodle in that case, Moira? You admin yuor space? CarlaA: Is it moodlerooms that you get a space and for each student you pay a dollar? MoiraH: I even thought of creating a resource list with them all to compare them but time or lack of it has never allowed me to actually do it NelbaQ: good idea, Moira CorinneW: that sounds fair enough Carla DennisOl: Moodlerooms info: DennisOl: http://www.moodlerooms.com/individual-teacher-hosting-package.html MoiraH: emodo is another organisation to keep your eyes on CarlaA: João, I'd like to really thank you for the conversation this week at Diigo! Thanks for being there MoiraH: not moodle based RonyP left the room (signed off). NergizK: This is what Nellie Deutsch had mentioned: http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd/ CorinneW: sorry Carla, what isn't moodle based MoiraH: that's Nellie's moodle DennisOl: http://blog.edmodo.com/ MoiraH: emodo is not based on a moodle CarlaA: I think moira is talking abou emodo RonyP joined the room. NergizK: Yes, but I think she said we could host our courses there for free NergizK: Not sure though JoaoA: You don't need to thank me, Carla. It was my pleasure. It's just a naturally thing to participate when you feel you have anything to say. NelbaQ: Hey, talking about Diigo. Congrats" Carla on the project. MoiraH: Sory Edmodo http://moirahunter.multiply.com/journal/item/110/Another_one_Edmodo NelbaQ: I am a newbie at Diigo :( CarlaA: well, thank you anyway, Joao. I think it's being a very enriching conversation JoaoA: I am a newbie there, too. VanceS: I am watching the diigo conversation NelbaQ: really, Joao? don´t look like one! CarlaA: we all are, Nelba! RonyP: whats Diigo VanceS: haven't jumped in yet JoaoA: I am a newbie everywhere. RonyP: me too CarlaA: http://message.diigo.com/message/how-should-we-use-the-tagging-system-to-better-organize-our-group-bookmarks-and-enhance-collective-k-155056?page_num=0#30 NelbaQ: yes, great to find friends everywhere! hahaha CarlaA: this is the conversation taking place about folksonomies, tagging, etc... VanceS: Diigo is an enhanced del.icio.us CarlaA: I've been learning ton there CorinneW: Diigo? DennisOl: http://www.diigo.com/ JoaoA: That's right. But I still can't swap. I am using both right now. CarlaA: in fact, Vance, when Gladys contacted me, the idea was to work on delicious, but then I was sold! VanceS: how do I import my delicious links in diigo (I have it open now) CorinneW: sorry just found it NergizK: Joao, you can synch Diigo and del.ico.us CarlaA: my Diigo tools NelbaQ: oh, Vance. that is a very good question!! CarlaA: import bookmarks JoaoA: Good, Niegiz. I didn't knoe that. I must find out how. CarlaA: then, you can synch diigo with delicious NelbaQ: really? as simple as that¿ CorinneW: sacha sirk - what was the right spelling CarlaA: so every time you save in diigo it's also saved in delicious VanceS: import bookmarks? NergizK: First, you import your del.icio.us bookmarks . And then, set up Diigo to automatically bookmark sites on del.ico.us oo VanceS: yep CorinneW: don't you find it easier just to use your office here for that? VanceS: ahh DennisOl: The problem with Sasha's name is that the second "s" in her given name uses an accent mark. CarlaA: that's it, Nergiz! CorinneW: so it is sasha sirk? JoaoA: I'll see how to do that later. I haven't been very involved with Diigo yet. NergizK: Sorry Carla, wasn't reading that you were explaining it already :) DennisOl: Her given name is Saša. NelbaQ: I will try importing Del to Diigo then CarlaA: Nergiz, we're a team! NergizK: That made the decision easy for me to switch to Diigo VanceS: seems you go to delicious, backup your bookmarks to your computer as HTML, then import that to diigo NergizK: Yes, Vance JoaoA: There is so much out there that your day isn't long enough to keep track of everything. CarlaA: João, you've been involved a lot with Diigo!!! CorinneW: I will leave this chat open, I have a hungry ill and grumpy four year old downstairs and no partner or siblings to do the domestic stuff right now DennisOl: The š might show up as s or s' or something else. NelbaQ: Absolutely, Joao. MoiraH: Se you Corine NelbaQ: day must have 48 hours VanceS: did you guys see the video that stephen downes did to explain his workflow? NelbaQ: but that is a Webhead problem... CarlaA: could you post the link, Vance? NelbaQ: curious NergizK: Let us know how it is going with your IT class, Corinne DennisOl: In Saša, the š is the equivalent of sh in English. NelbaQ: yes JoaoA: I have been sharing bookmarks, reading others' bookmarks and writing some posts in the Learningwithcomputers group. RonyP left the room (signed off). RonyP joined the room. VanceS: here it is, http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2008/06/oldaily-production.html JoaoA: Thanks, Vance VanceS: in case you wonder how he does it VanceS: cleverly automate processes VanceS: helps to be a scripter CarlaA: João, that's the ida JoaoA: I am curious to know CarlaA: idea, I mean! VanceS: friendfeed is pretty cool for helping people keep up with one another NergizK: Friendfeed looks like something that would steal more of my time DennisOl: http://friendfeed.com/ VanceS: i thnk you just set it up, then it runs JoaoA: I haven't explored the possibilities of Diigo yet, Carla. I might do it one of these days. RonyP: friendfeed is great VanceS: you can ignore it or follow friends ClaireB: yes, there is too much stuff that takes up too much of our time CarlaA: Nergiz, In fact, it has saved me time, Nergiz DennisOl: Hear, hear, Claire! VanceS: that was the point, the downes video, how to cleverly consolidate CarlaA: João, I'd say that now the best thing to do is what you've been doing, interacting...the tech part, we can learn any time DennisOl: Good point, Carlinha. VanceS: we learn tech BY interacting CarlaA: waiting for you there, Dennis! DennisOl: Where? CarlaA: I've been meaning to send you an email... NergizK: Really, Carla? CarlaA: but busy in Boston!!! NergizK: Maybe, I should try it then JoaoA: You are right, Carla. DennisOl: I bet you are. Enjoy the time there! CarlaA: yes, Nergiz. I can easily visualize what people are doing in FriendFeed and then I just check what I wan RonyP left the room (signed off). VanceS: Do you agree with this? productivity can suffer if one does not appropriately balance the lure of the constant feed-stream with the discipline to address tasks requiring focus. Or does it? Perhaps heightened productivity depends on taking time for such reflection and percolation of information, ideas, and insights. NergizK: Hm, I see. VanceS: depends is italicized NergizK: Vance, at one point, I turned off Twitter for two days because I found it very distracting. VanceS: yes, finding that balance CarlaA: Vance, we really need to define what's is priority at a certain point...otherwise, productivity is threatened all the time ClaireB: yes, i agree, as long as one really does take the time for reflection and does not just continually skate off looking at new tools DennisOl: I think productivity depends on reflection plus action, not just reaction or jumping on one bandwagon after another. MoiraH: I just wish SD would do something with his 'look' and 'locks' ;-) ClaireB: hear hear dennis NergizK: Downes video is distracting me right now :) CarlaA: lol, Moira! CarlaA: so true, Dennis ClaireB: but vance, it is difficult to percolate when the barrage never stops CorinneW: afk, but will read the chat later JenniferV1 joined the room. DennisOl: The problem with reflection plus action is that one may not really realize where she/he wants to go. MoiraH: H Jennifer VanceS: percolation occurs due to a barrage DennisOl: and what he/she wants to do. JenniferV1: Hello friends!! DennisOl: It can. A barrage can also result in meltdown. CarlaA: Hey, Jen VanceS: yes, it's a constant balance, Hi Jennifer NergizK: Hi Jenniver DennisOl: Jennifer! Hi! JoaoA: This week I got aware of the potential of kwout, thaks to a post by Vance. http://kwout.com/ VanceS: JenniVer that's a good one JoaoA: Hi Jennifer MoiraH: klouting with kwout is great CarlaA: Oh, Joao, Kwout is wonderful! NelbaQ: Hi, Jen DennisOl: It seems to have lots of potential. VanceS: but isn't in the same as making a screen shot and linking that to a URL? NergizK: kwout in combination with Tumblr is good CarlaA: I use it a lot, Joao MoiraH: you can automatically have the url included VanceS: I first saw it in Carla's blog CarlaA: Vance, but it's much easier NergizK: Vance, maybe yes, but it's much faster with kwout CarlaA: I tend to use it a lot ChristianG joined the room. JoaoA: Yes, it is. I had come across it a time ago but then I had forgotten about it and never used it. But this week I realized how useful it can be. MoiraH: I tend to use it as a bookmark for myself personally as I like the visual side DennisOl: And apparently Kwout doesn't require you to have your own webhost. CarlaA: no, Dennis DennisOl: That saves time and money and space. VanceS: so we've all taken the time to check out a tool and now people are saying it will save time in the long run and provide more empowerment ClaireB: vance, are you still posting all the webhead transcripts? MoiraH: and also in courses - it gives the attractive visual to the learners rather than a bring link VanceS: so that bit of time spent sipping from the firehose was well spent DennisOl: And that's a great advantage, isn't it, Moira? MoiraH: boring url link JoaoA: Right, Moira CarlaA: You also have a system like that in pageflakes... VanceS: I have a backlog of transcripts that I need to send Sedat MoiraH: For me yes as I'm visual and for the learners too as it livens up a webpage VanceS: who will post them if I send them CarlaA: I don't know how it's called, but you can take a screenshot and it becomes a flake there... NelbaQ: Webheads pageflakes is really useful MoiraH: I use it too in my pageflakes NergizK: Great, Moira. VanceS: or maybe someone else would like to help with that CarlaA: for me too DennisOl: Yes, Pagelakes is good . . . but it doesn't display in all browsers. ClaireB: hmm, because knowing that the chats may be posted makes me inclined to be a little guarded in what i say, lol NelbaQ: For the teachers, weblogs section may be a source of inspiration DennisOl: Oops. Pageflakes. CarlaA: guys, I'll have to leave now...but great talking to you! VanceS: claire? guarded? CarlaA: thanks for the wonderful Sunday. ClaireB: beijos, carla DennisOl: Take care, Carlinha. Beijos na bochecha! CarlaA: Beijocas NelbaQ: I took some ideas from colleagues to post in my class blogs NergizK: Bye Carla NelbaQ: by Carlinha CarlaA: see you around ClaireB: yes, absolutely VanceS: I'll have to pinch my ears if I ever hear claire unguarded MoiraH: Bye Carla CarlaA: at Diigo!!! JoaoA: Bye Carla NelbaQ: if we put our blogs there, we can share ideas JenniferV1: Better late than never JenniferV1: at least read you!! ClaireB: in fact, i started to say something and then realized that it might be logged and posted somewhere sometime DennisOl: Enjoy Boston! CarlaA: http://groups.diigo.com/groups/learningwithcomputers NelbaQ: for example Corinne's motivation problem MoiraH: Carla, you can add mine mentioned above if you like GertrudH joined the room. GertrudH left the room. CarlaA: I will, Moira CarlaA: thanks MoiraH -) CarlaA: bye VanceS: there are three or 4 sides to that coin, claire CarlaA left the room (signed off). JenniferV1: bye Carla DennisOl: Até logo. ClaireB: vance, of course all of us have to be guarded at one time or another NelbaQ: a gente ce ve VanceS: tapped in has a policy that its chats should not be posted VanceS: webheads have special dispensation MoiraH: that's good to know VanceS: by virtue of the disclaimer here: http://prosites-vstevens.homestead.com/files/efi/webheads.htm MoiraH: ninehub conversation in webhead list is up there in glory in Google ;-) VanceS: this was agreed to be acceptable with B at one time VanceS: long ago JenniferV1: you get the whole chat summary sent to your email VanceS: and we have had no problem MoiraH: privacy Jenn VanceS: there is much precedent, for example, worldbridges chats are all put online JenniferV1: Wonderful!! ClaireB: yes, but i wonder how many people who log on casually are aware of the policy JenniferV1: Personally I never use Tapped In VanceS: it's a valid point claire ClaireB: back in the moo days, the disclaimer used to be flashed on the screen at the beginning of each chat VanceS: I think there's more value in being open and sharing ClaireB: this is not a major issue with me MoiraH: SD is still droning on ........ in he background ;-) VanceS: it is an issue and it's worth reminding ourselves of it now and then VanceS: we don't want it to be an issue that is VanceS: so we need to be open about it ClaireB: yes, for example, suppose at some point in history SD sees moira's comment about "droning on" VanceS: ha ha NergizK is laughing ClaireB: that is my pont ClaireB: point VanceS: it will appear in the OLDaily MoiraH: lol - I've already mentioned something like this and he's read it :-) NergizK: Claire, it is easy to forget even if you know ClaireB: exactly VanceS: what about his hair, something was mentioned earlier ClaireB: another example MoiraH: no, I've never mentioned his need to go to the barbar's NergizK: It feels so cozy here that it is easy to forget :) VanceS: yes, it's best to be cozy VanceS: but I don't think stephen really minds that MoiraH: no as I'm sure he's heard it over a million times :-) VanceS: and of anyone I would think he would be all for the open sharing post-it approach DennisOl: I'd think so, too. ClaireB: this may be an example where he doesn't care, but there surely are others where the recipients of comments would in fact care MoiraH: it's the intelligensia look :-) VanceS: you are absolutely right claire DennisOl: I'm sure you're right, Claire. It's hard to know what people will be sensitive to. ClaireB: when things are posted on the internet, they are not in fact cozy NergizK: I agree, Claire. It's one thing to tell something about yourself but another to talk about people who are not present. VanceS: I am inclined to carry on being webheads though JenniferV1: we are opened to different people, cultures NelbaQ: hello, Jen JenniferV1: Hola!! DennisOl: Yes, Vance, I agree. The alternative is very unsettling. NelbaQ: I am sending U private messages!!! I want to ask you sth MoiraH: but then, even here, if you are not present but you look at the archives, it could also possibley be perturbing to see you've been mentioned VanceS: yep, in this new age we are invited to make our own rules to an extent NergizK: I don't think you have to decide between being a webhead and being a bit cautious about what you share or tell about others. NergizK: It's not two extremes for me NergizK: That's it Moirea NergizK: Moira DennisOl: It isn't to me, either, but others may not feel that way. VanceS: in the context of the internet VanceS: what does dave cormier say? DennisOl: Some are VERY sensitive about being mentioned, quoted, referred to . . . . BjB joined the room. VanceS: if you put somethng on the net you've just written to the largest toilet wall in the world DennisOl: Hi, BJ. NelbaQ: Hi, BJ ClaireB: lol vance ClaireB hugs bj NergizK is laughing MoiraH: Hi BJ :-) DennisOl: Love it, Vance! JenniferV1: Hello BJ BjB waves and hugs. Hi, everyone! NergizK: Hi Bj ClaireB left the room (signed off). VanceS hugs bj DennisOl waves back and also sends a hug. ClaireB joined the room. DennisOl: WB, Claire. JenniferV1: webheads are changing the way students learn and teachers teach VanceS: wb claire NelbaQ: Jen, have you received my Google e-mail? ClaireB: thanks, dennis DennisOl smiles. VanceS: yes, I think if it ain't broke, don't fix it VanceS: and so far, I don't see that anything is broken VanceS: if something breaks, we'll fix it DennisOl: Hear, hear! VanceS: as much as I'd LOVE to hear what claire was going to say ... ClaireB: ?? JenniferV1: Nelba chat with you after this VanceS: when you realized that this might be posted somewhere ClaireB: actually, it wasn't that negative :-) VanceS: but even so, a transcript goes out to participants' mailboxes, so you still need to be careful ClaireB: just something about how most of my colleagues view web 2 and all these tools NelbaQ: Jen, I am having an asado aftr this :) NelbaQ: send me a mail VanceS: probably slightly more enlightened than the way my colleagues do NelbaQ: It was Jennifer's birthday last Friday!!!! DennisOl: A belated happy birthday, Jennifer! ClaireB: vance, i sincerely doubt that that is true lol MoiraH: Belated birthday bumps Jenn VanceS: yes, we saw the greetings, felice compleanos ClaireB: happy birthday JoaoA: happy birthday, Jennifer NelbaQ: feliz cumpleaños!!!! JenniferV1: Thanks!!!! Had a great day worked a lot and eat milanesas DennisOl: Mnohaya Lyeta! VanceS awaits Claire's comments on my spanish VanceS: ah, thank you Nelba NelbaQ: your secretary NelbaQ: hahaha VanceS :-) JenniferV1: bilingual secretary!!!jaja VanceS: handy DennisOl chuckles. JenniferV1: Will meet you f2f soon Vance!! NergizK: What are milanesas? Happy belated birthday :) VanceS: yes, I've got my tickets booked, pick them up tomorrow probalby NelbaQ: yes... I will ask for a better salary then hahaha DennisOl: In Japan or ??? JenniferV1: In Japan MoiraH: How are all the preaprations going Nelba and Jenn NelbaQ: we are going to meet Nina and Hala JenniferV1: Milanesas are thin slices of meat with bread covering it NelbaQ: Claire is going, too , I think DennisOl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milanesa MoiraH: Oh great, I didn't know Hala was going too NelbaQ: Jen, say that we fry them NergizK: Sounds good. Thanks Dennis :) VanceS: sort of like an upside down smorbrot? JenniferV1: I just realized that my Lastname in my ticket is wrong so much change it DennisOl: My pleasure, Nergiz. JenniferV1: I didn´t fry them made then in the oven NelbaQ: don´t tell me! JenniferV1: you have this possibility NelbaQ: must tell AIXA DennisOl: Sounds good, Jennifer. ClaireB: jennifer, are you going to worldcall? JenniferV1: Nelba and I will be interviewed this Tuesday BobZw joined the room. JenniferV1: Yes I´m so happy!!! NergizK: Hm, looks good, too DennisOl: I agree, Nergiz. VanceS: in case you came late this is the 512 consecutive webheads sunday noon GMT weekly synchronous chat ClaireB: cool; then i will meet you there DennisOl: Wow, Vance. Amazing! VanceS: hey bob ClaireB: interviewed by whom, jen? BobZw: hello everyone DennisOl: Hi, Bob. Welcome! MoiraH: Hi Bob NergizK: Hi Bob JenniferV1: Hello Bob ClaireB: hi bob NelbaQ: Hi, Bob JenniferV1: On a local radio programme ClaireB: about worldcall? DennisOl: In Japan? NelbaQ: oh, yes, we will reacord it NelbaQ: but in Spanish DennisOl: Great! MoiraH: Wonderful Jenn - I know you'll record it, right? JenniferV1: yes we will JenniferV1: you must practise your spanish!!! MoiraH: Well, we'll just have to improve our Spanish :-) DennisOl: Will there be interviews in other languages, too? JenniferV1: will try to transalte it DennisOl: I think there's a Worldbridges webcast in Spanish today. NelbaQ: in Argentina, I don´t think so... JenniferV1: Dennis heard about it but never had time to look at it ClaireB: there are a whole bunch of interviews on the worldcall website: http://www.j-let.org/~wcf/modules/tinyd3/ MoiraH: this is excellent news - great stuff!!!!! ClaireB: just click on interviews ClaireB: they interviewed me a couple of months agp NelbaQ: yes, there is at a webcast in Spanish at 6 GMT JenniferV1: thanks Claire will take a look at it later DelinC joined the room. JenniferV1 left the room (signed off). JenniferV1 joined the room. ClaireB: wb jen DennisOl: Thanks for the link, Claire. DennisOl: Jennifer: http://worldbridges.net/ (See the box on the right.) NergizK: Milanesa looks/sounds a bit like cordon blue (sorry, I'm hugnry) DennisOl: (La Academia) NelbaQ: yes ClaireB: the worldcall interviews are also available in itunes (but i know that vance hates itunes) BobZw: Thanks for the TWIT about tis meeting Vance. 512 consecutive.... WOW JenniferV1: Thanks Dennis NergizK: Hi Delin ClaireB: also in pomatic NelbaQ: Jorge Rodriguez is the codinator DennisOl: My pleasure, Jennifer. DelinC: hi. greeting to you all! VanceS: who conducts the interviews DennisOl: José Rodríguez. JenniferV1: hello Delin MoiraH: Hi Delin VanceS: hey twitter is working DennisOl: Hi, Delin. JenniferV1: Mine isn´t VanceS: hi delin JenniferV1: would be great to have a twiiter only for webheads DelinC: Hi. Dennie and Moirah! VanceS: well bob saw the tweet, thanks for comng Bob NelbaQ: well, people. I 'd better go. VanceS: we do, our crowdstatus JenniferV1: to create a microblogging system DennisOl: Take care, Nelba. DelinC: Worldbridge has coming news! NelbaQ: thanks, Dennis ClaireB: bye nelba VanceS: cya Nelba NelbaQ: a big hug to everybody! JenniferV1: bye Nelba CU NergizK: Bye Nelba VanceS: what's the news from worldbridges NelbaQ: bye DelinC: bye neiba MoiraH: Bye Nelba DennisOl smiles y manda abrazos. NelbaQ: abrazos para tí Dennis NelbaQ left the room (signed off). DennisOl: Mil gracias! DennisOl: I need to leave, too. DennisOl: I've enjoyed the chat today--as I always do. JenniferV1: bye bye Dennis NergizK: Bye, Dennis. And thanks again for your help! ClaireB: i also must leave -- bye to all MoiraH: Yes , me too. I need to get stuff done before the match ;-) VanceS: I wanted to ask Nergiz about this: VanceS: http://slexperiments.pbwiki.com/FrontPage DennisOl: Bye, all! Take care— MoiraH hugs everybody MoiraH: Bye all DennisOl left the room (signed off). JenniferV1: bye Moira enjoy your day!! NergizK: Bye Moira ClaireB left the room (signed off). VanceS: match what match? VanceS: LOL MoiraH: nice speakig with you today :-) NergizK: What do you want to know, Vance? NergizK: Finals Vance VanceS: update us BobZw: Well, I was late as usual, but gals I re-touched base with all you webheads! NergizK: Spain Gemany VanceS: yep, we're here every week Bob BobZw: "but glad" :( VanceS -)) MoiraH waves goodbye before dramatic exit VanceS helps Moira with her cape MoiraH: chou JenniferV1: adios Moira!! MoiraH left the room (signed off). VanceS: don't forget your glasses NergizK thinks there are still gentlemen DelinC: What's slexperiment pbwiki? what's the content? VanceS: yeah, your turn to inform us Nergiz VanceS: you meet on fridays still? NergizK: It's a wiki to help learn about how to teach in Second Life NergizK: learn about SL skills and most importantly share lesson plan and ideas VanceS: are you still at English Village? with Kip? NergizK: We still meet every Friday at 11 am SLT/PDT (6 pm GMT) in SL NergizK: No, Vance, at the moment we meet at Webhead HQ on EduNation Island VanceS: but do you have space there still? BobZw: bye from Texas VanceS: are you teachng students? VanceS: cya bob? NergizK: There is an agena that everybody can add to on the wiki and a summary of past meetings BobZw left the room (signed off). NergizK: Yes, i still have my "classroom" in SLenglish LeslieR joined the room. NergizK: and a new one somewhere else LeslieR left the room. NergizK: I will start a course on 9th July VanceS: is somewhere else a secret? BjB: don't forget the Tapped In Festival!!!! BjB . o O ( July 23 and 24 ) NergizK: Oh, no, Vance, no secret. It's on Islamonline.net Island II BjB: LOTS of pre-festival tips and tricks NergizK: I love it because I can say what I want or need and they build it for me :) VanceS: thanks Nergiz, and BJ for the announcement VanceS: would you like to update us bj? NergizK: Oh, yes, BJ. BjB: just take a look at the July calendar NergizK: Like to know more BjB: and there is a link to the Festival page.... VanceS: neat Nergiz, on Islamonline? VanceS: they build for you? (wow) NergizK: Yes, Vance, they have two Island in SL BjB: http://tappedin.org/tappedin/web/festival/index.jsp NergizK: Well, I will teach 6 weeks or free VanceS: that sounds like a good arrangement NergizK: I will be a "blended" course with Moodle VanceS: not making time to get into SL is one of my weaknesses right now NergizK: I would love to try out Sloodle but haven't had time to learn more about it VanceS: is there info at your wiki? NergizK: Info about the course? VanceS: yes (that was my question) NergizK: Yes, I on the News page NergizK: And I will add my lesson plans VanceS: cool, this is worth following GeorgeB joined the room. NergizK: And will also give an account on how it went afterwards NergizK: I hope that others will follow NergizK: I would also like other participants to read the lesson plans and ideas and say what they think. Or if they tried them, how it went NergizK: So, we can improve on them NergizK: This first course is a real SL experiment for me :) VanceS: it's great to follow such experiments NergizK: Hi George ChristianG: Is anyone currently at NECC? VanceS: I catch the occasional video from there VanceS: sounds like THE place to be right now ChristianG: I'm in a Moodle workshop right now VanceS: at NECC? VanceS: in San Antone? VanceS: (whut us texuns call it) ChristianG: National Education and Computing Conference (ISTE) DelinC: what is NECC? National Educational Computing Conference? ChristianG: yep VanceS: something like that, it's a really big conference that's attracting all the great names and gurus in online education NergizK: Moodle workshop? ChristianG: sorry to interrupt. just wanted to see if anyone was in TX VanceS: and you're there now Christian? ChristianG: yes NergizK: Bjb, the festival programme looks interesting JenniferV1: seems to be really interesting VanceS: any streams going on at the moment? NergizK: There are field trips, too BjB nods to Nergiz VanceS: webheads used to be involved in these summer festivals ChristianG: not sure. I am sure there will be during the conference VanceS: it's great to have this connection to NECC via tapped in VanceS: there are so many VanceS: via Twitter, Plurk VanceS: let me see if I can find the streaming sites VanceS: there's a great wiki inviting folks to contribute (I put the times there in GMT) NergizK: So many events :( VanceS: that wiki invites video contributions VanceS: I'll try find it ChristianG: well, thanks all. sorry to interrupt. See you at NECC next year! SusanaNC joined the room. VanceS: http://edstreamtv.wikispaces.com/ VanceS: interruptions welcome NergizK: I've learned s much here today, as usual ChristianG: thanks vance BjB waves hi to Susan JenniferV1: Me too Nergizk SusanaNC: I was looking for something left about yesterday discussion on Diigo NergizK: Ah, life stream VanceS: i think they are recordings SusanaNC: Sorry to be late VanceS: if you click around you can get a playlist NergizK: Hm, OK VanceS: Hi Susana SusanaNC: OK NergizK: Hi Susana SusanaNC: Hi VanceS writes on clipboard "susana was late" VanceS: ha ha just joking!!! NergizK: I need to go now and try to learn more about Moodle SusanaNC: hahaha NergizK: Bye everybody! JenniferV1: I´m taking a moodle course with a local University VanceS: ask Christian, she's in a workshop ow VanceS: now JenniferV1: really interesting all the options you have with Moodle VanceS: or start an acct at ninehub and start doing it NergizK: Good for you Jennifer. I have to figure it out alone JoaoA: I need to go now, too. Thanks for the interesting conversation. JenniferV1: some people prefer wikis NergizK: Is this workshop open for everybody? JenniferV1: no closed VanceS: cya Joao, I'll see if we can post it via Sedat DelinC: Edstreamtv is now broadcasting on NECC at the site. JenniferV1: and all ins spanish NergizK: Ah, well, thought so JenniferV1: I´m also interested in Mobile learning JenniferV1: something I must investigate JoaoA left the room (signed off). VanceS: i think it might be a recording NergizK: Bye! SusanaNC: I'm looking for recordings I don't know where SusanaNC: hugs for everybody VanceS: yeah I found it maybe by accident VanceS: I'll look again VanceS hugs Susana NergizK left the room (signed off). NergizK joined the room. BjB runs to the store ....be back later JenniferV1: the only think I did was to add www.mofuse.com NergizK left the room. VanceS: there's on demand and on air VanceS: on air is playing the recordings VanceS: click on ON-DEMAND to get a playlist VanceS: cya BH VanceS: BJ SusanaNC: I can't see ON-DEMAND option on my toolbar VanceS: are you looking at the Mogulus edstreamtv widgit? SusanaNC: No, thnaks. I'll go there VanceS: at http://edstreamtv.wikispaces.com/ SusanaNC left the room (signed off). SusanaNC joined the room. DebL joined the room. JenniferV1: must leave always learning with all of you!! DebL left the room (signed off). VanceS: ok, nice to see all the great webheads VanceS: oh, sign up at Plurk and add Vance as a friend JenniferV1: waving bye bye to all of you!! VanceS: in case you run out of other things to do VanceS: Plurk is fun and funky SusanaNC: thanks again SusanaNC: waving bye too VanceS :-) JenniferV1 left the room (signed off). VanceS: ok, christian is in the chat room at http://edstreamtv.wikispaces.com/ SusanaNC left the room. VanceS: in case you want to continue there SusanaNC joined the room. VanceS: I guess I'm going to move over to my balcony and watch the sunset SusanaNC: Wow, it's mearly midday in Argentina ChristianG: Vance where are you? VanceS: Abu Dhabi, UAE ChristianG: nice VanceS: if I manage to get on next week at this time I'll be in Uzbekistan SusanaNC: we're going to have an asado in my sister's house ChristianG: I'm in TEXAS VanceS: in San Antonio VanceS: at NECC ChristianG: yep VanceS: lucky YOU VanceS: did you go last year? ChristianG: this is cool. I haven't been in TI in a while SusanaNC: bye VanceS: we meet here every week at noon gmt SusanaNC: I have to leave to take the salads DelinC: bye! Susan! SusanaNC: Great !!! VanceS: next week will be meeting #513 ChristianG: well, guys. I better start paying attention in my Moodle workshop VanceS: yah SusanaNC left the room (signed off). ChristianG: thanks for allowing me to chat with you CorinneW left the room (signed off). VanceS: I need to start paying attn to my wife ChristianG: lol VanceS: you are most welcome VanceS: we are Webheads ChristianG: peace! VanceS: http://webheads.info VanceS: and say hi to my friends at the conference VanceS: cya there ChristianG left the room. VanceS left the room (signed off). 2008.06.29 07:49:24 Signoff